Blocked Rwanda scheme 'already having effect' - home secretary claims
Speaking to Sky News, James Cleverly explained how the government is going to move forward with its blocked scheme following a Supreme Court ruling.
Thursday 16 November 2023 09:21, UK
The blocked Rwanda deportation scheme is "already having an effect" in deterring people smugglers, according to Home Secretary James Cleverly.
Speaking to Sky News, Mr Cleverly did not seem discouraged by yesterday's ruling by the Supreme Court that the plan to send asylum seekers to the central African nation was unlawful.
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Tap here for moreHe said: "The deterrent effect of Rwanda is already having an effect in the thinking of the people smugglers, because we know - we interview people when they get here - we know that the Rwanda scheme is talked about among the people smugglers and about the people who would put their lives and money in the hands of these people smugglers."
Mr Cleverly reconfirmed the government plans to introduce a legally binding treaty with Rwanda which would address the issues raised by the Supreme Court - including the fact asylum seekers can be redeported from the country to places where they might not be safe.
Addressing some of the criticisms about the scheme, Mr Cleverly said he had "detected - basically - some very lazy attitudes" about Rwanda because it is an African country.
Asked whether the UK would leave the European Convention on Human Rights, the new home secretary said "we don't think we're going to need to" take the UK out of the international agreement.
Pressure is being put on the government by backbench Conservative MPs to leave the ECHR.
But it was not just this the Supreme Court ruled was stopping the scheme from getting off the ground.
The judgment noted Rwanda also fell foul of various European and United Nations agreements due to its treatment of refugees.
The ruling also explained the government is legally bound to abide by the European and UN agreements by domestic law, including but not limited to the Human Rights Act.
But Mr Cleverly said the UK could lobby for reform of international agreements - saying he gave a speech to that effect earlier this year
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He added the caveat that the government is "not going to be deterred from doing the right thing" in "protecting our borders, protecting those communities who are most under pressure through illegal migration, protecting the illegal migrants themselves because we have safe and legal routes".
Asked about the timescale of the new treaty with Rwanda, Mr Cleverly said the deal had been in negotiations for a year in preparation for the court ruling against them.
The treaty "is ready pretty much now to turn into a treaty that can be done within days, not weeks or months - days".
He also encouraged the House of Lords to vote through the agreement.