SNP leader John Swinney is speaking to Trevor Phillips this morning, after his party failed to win the Holyrood byelection in Hamilton last week.
His words before the election - that it was a two horse race between the SNP and Reform - are put to the SNP leader.
Labour won the vote.
Swinney says he spotted early on that Labour's vote was "collapsing" and it did "just that".
His evidence is that Labour's vote share in the area went from 50% a year ago in the area to just over 30% last week.
Swinney says Reform "came from, frankly, nowhere" to claim a quarter of the vote.
This left his own SNP with an "improved" picture - but they "didn't improve enough to win".
Asked why the SNP is not picking up the votes Labour are losing - which are instead going to Reform, Swinney says his party needs a "compelling proposition".
He does concede his party has had a "pretty tough time" over the past few years.