No 10 and Treasury trying to clear 'barnacles' with winter fuel U-turn
Luke Sullivan is one of those very powerful people in politics you have probably never heard of.
He worked as Sir Keir Starmer's political director until the party came into government and worked for the Labour Party and Labour MPs for almost 20 years.
Speaking to Sophy Ridge tonight, he tries to explain some of the thinking behind the government's decision to U-turn on winter fuel payments.
'A really, really big moment'
He says the initial decision was taken to show markets Labour were serious - and that it was reversed when it became clear it was a problem on the doorstep during the local elections.
He describes it as clearing "barnacles on the boat" and ensuring the government can focus on "a really, really big moment" for the prime minister and chancellor: Wednesday's spending review, which sets departmental budgets for the coming years.
Sullivan says taking the U-turn now ensures the spending review is the "story of this week".
Is Reeves on the brink?
When a minister is forced to make such a big U-turn, it is not uncommon to think they might get the heave-ho from government.
Sophy asks Sullivan if Chancellor Rachel Reeves might be heading towards the exit after the disastrous saga of the winter fuel payment.
He says: "Ultimately Keir and Rachel have a really strong relationship - not just personally and professionally, also their teams. The individuals who are around them who have worked for Keir, they are a tight team."
He says while it's been "tough going", Number 10 and Number 11 are "aligned closely".
Asked if Reeves made a mistake that the PM has had to rectify, Sullivan concedes Starmer is someone who is a "delegator" - but that doesn't mean he's not across the details or doesn't get involved.
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